Διαβάστε το επίμαχο απόσπασμα ενώ το παρών νήμα θα ανανεώνεται συνεχώς όταν θα υπάρχουν καινούργιες πληροφορίες:.......
Wednesday, 16 September 2009, 07:34
S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 04 PARIS 001254
NOFORN
SIPDIS
EO 12958 DECL: 09/16/2018
TAGS PREL, PARM, KNNP, BH, SM, MK, GR, FR
SUBJECT: A/S GORDON’S MEETINGS WITH POLICY-MAKERS IN PARIS:
A TOUR D’HORIZON OF EUROPE AND AFGHANISTAN
Classified By: Ambassador Charles Rivkin, for reasons 1.4(b) and (d).
Summary
Senior officials from both countries examine current international challenges, agreeing that Afghanistan is a major priority, fretting about Russian actions in Georgia, and agreeing to disagree about Turkey’s EU membership bid. But on Iran, there is a full meeting of minds, with the French saying Tehran’s response to Barack Obama’s offer to talk is a farce. Key passage highlighted in yellow.
Read related article 1. (S) Summary. During Assistant Secretary Gordon’s visit to Paris on September 11, he met with a number of French policy-makers including: Elysee Diplomatic Advisors Jean-David Levitte, Damien Loras, and Francois Richier, Assistant Secretary equivalent for Continental Europe Roland Galharague, and Acting Director of MFA Strategic Affairs bureau Jean-Hugues Simon-Michel. Discussions focused on Russia, upcoming developments in the Balkans (Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia and Kosovo), elections in Germany and Afghanistan, Turkey’s EU Accession, NATO Enlargement and Strategic Concept, and Georgia and Ukraine. End Summary.
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5. (C) Levitte expressed optimism that a new Greek government would be “more solid” and allow greater flexibility for progress in the Greek-Macedonian name dispute. A/S Gordon agreed that either a more solid Conservative government or a Socialist government would be a stronger, more flexible partner in the negotiations. He expressed hope that if the international community could convince Macedonia to abandon the idea of a referendum and get Greece to abandon the necessity of changing passports, then progress could be made.
Θα βγαίνουν σιγά-σιγά εδώ, τώρα δεν έχουμε δει ούτε το ένα χιλιοστό.
ΑπάντησηΔιαγραφήhttp://cablegate.wikileaks.org/
Έχει πολύ περισσότερα ελληνικού ενδιαφέροντος.
Στατιστικά εγγράφων «ανά χώρα» (σύμφωνα με την ονομασία που έχουν βάλει εκείνοι), για Ελλάδα και γείτονες:
ΑπάντησηΔιαγραφήGreece: 1,758
Crete: 1,758 (ίδιο νούμερο, δεν ξέρω αν είναι σύμπτωση ή αν πρόκειται για ΝΑΤΟϊκά έγγραφα)
Cyprus: 1,253
Turkey: 11,086
Bulgaria: 1,067
Serbia and Montenegro: 1,244
Kosovo: 1,320
Albania: 822
Macedonia: 783
Ο Guardian έχει λίστα με τα έγγραφα. Στα 1358 που έφυγαν από την Ελλάδα, υπάρχουν 92 με αναφορά στα Σκόπια (περίπου 1 στα 15). Όλα μεταξύ 2005-2010, από την πρεσβεία στην Αθήνα.
ΑπάντησηΔιαγραφήΜέχρι στιγμής, για Σκόπια υπάρχουν 4, αν και όλοι έχουν δημοσιεύσει μόνο 1.
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[1] http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/09/09PARIS1254.html
08PARIS114
2008-01-23 14:02
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Paris
TAGS: PREL PARM KNNP BH SM MK GR FR
NATO Enlargement
Regarding Macedonia, Errera said the GOM underestimates the seriousness of the name issue for Greece and that the U.S. should not make the same mistake. France will not pressure Greece on this issue. Furthermore, if Athens were to give in on the name issue, the Greek government could fall, thus bringing in a new government which would be responsible for -- and presumably hostile to -- the NATO enlargement ratification progress.
[2] http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2008/01/08PARIS114.html
09STATE62392
2009-06-16 21:09
SECRET//NOFORN
Secretary of State
TAGS: PREL PGOV MARR NATO FR RU IR GG UP AG
SUBJECT: (S) REPORTING AND COLLECTION NEEDS: BULGARIA
This cable provides the full text of the new National HUMINT Collection Directive (NHCD) on Bulgaria
Bulgarian NHCD outline -- priority issues:
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B. Energy Security and Foreign Relations
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4) Black Sea, Balkans, and Other Regional Neighbors (FPOL-4H)
... Plans and efforts regarding Macedonia and Kosovo.
[3] http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/06/09STATE62392.html
09PARIS1254
2009-09-16 07:07
SECRET//NOFORN
Embassy Paris
TAGS: PINR KSPR ECON BU
Levitte expressed optimism that a new Greek government would be "more solid" and allow greater flexibility for progress in the Greek-Macedonian name dispute. A/S Gordon agreed that either a more solid Conservative government or a Socialist government would be a stronger, more flexible partner in the negotiations. He expressed hope that if the international community could convince Macedonia to abandon the idea of a referendum and get Greece to abandon the necessity of changing passports, then progress could be made.
[4] http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/11/09BERLIN1433.html
09BERLIN1433
2009-11-12 17:05
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Berlin
TAGS: PREL MARR NATO MNUC PARM KNNP GM IR RU AF
MACEDONIAN NAME ISSUE
Gordon briefed Heusgen on the current state of the negotiations, noting that the two key issues were the geographic modifier and international usage. Heusgen noted that the Chancellor knew PM Macedonian Gruevski through their common membership in the European People's Party and would be willing to engage him on this issue if that would be helpful.
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ΑπάντησηΔιαγραφήΑνώνυμε ευχαριστώ για την ενημέρωση που μας δίνεις.
ΑπάντησηΔιαγραφήhttp://cablesearch.org/cable/view.php?id=10BELGRADE25&hl=greece
ΑπάντησηΔιαγραφήSerbia is more worried about Macedonia’s future than Bosnia’s, Ratkovic said. It is not clear how a country composed of two completely different ethnic groups with no common language or religion can hold together, he commented, particularly with the ethnic Albanian population growing at such as rate that it will equal the Slavic population in 20 years. Ratkovic said that President Tadic was talking to both GREECE and Macedonia about the name issue in hopes of unblocking Macedonia’s path to both the EU and NATO.